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Re: [Physics-Departmental-Computing] meeting tomorrow on managed devices
by Jaffe, Andrew H 28 Nov '22

28 Nov '22

Hi David et al, I’m not going to be able to make today’s meeting, nor Wednesday’s. So apologies for the following lengthy screed. One more “service” has come to mind, slightly more general: license servers for various software packages. The most obvious example is Mathematica, but also includes IDL for at least a few people in Astro and perhaps elsewhere. (I suspect Office365 falls into a version of this category, as well.) I’m sure that there are others. More generally: we shouldn’t provide a laundry list of software that we run on our machines — the spirit of our request is that we don’t want ICT controlling them at a low level. We want to ensure that we have access to vital services on the college network, and that we aren’t firewalled from other necessary locations on the broader internet. Alongside a discussion of this list of services, we need them to give us a better understanding of the future of the different classes of networks that they described, i.e., the distinction between (a) off-campus access; (b) BYO machines on campus; and (c) managed machines. Right now, there are a small number of services for which off-campus access requires the VPN. But as far as I can tell, that appears to be the only restriction and the only difference, at least with respect to the services that I require. There are possibly admin and secure-data services that require being on the managed network (e.g., payslip access from off campus has moved from ICIS to “My Imperial”). Is this intended to change under “Universal access” or any other coming reforms? This gets to the nub of the problem, I think. Is ICT happy with these machines becoming BYO, but intend to severely curtail access to crucial services from that network in the name of security? I suspect that this would be unworkable, given the large number of student and other machines that will be in that category, not to mention how this inevitably overlaps with questions of access from external networks. Absent a more reassuring response from ICT so far, I am led to believe that the situation is actually that they just really, really, really want to maintain explicit management of our machines no matter what, without actually justifying the security implications. Sincerely, Andrew ______________________________________________________________________ Professor Andrew Jaffe a.jaffe(a)imperial.ac.uk<mailto:a.jaffe@imperial.ac.uk> Astrophysics Group +44 207 594-7526 Blackett Laboratory, Room 1018B Imperial College, Prince Consort Road London SW7 2AZ UK http://imperial.ac.uk/people/a.jaffe On 27 Nov 2022, at 18:00, David Colling <d.colling(a)imperial.ac.uk> wrote: Hi All, For those of you who can make it we will have a meeting to discuss managed devices tomorrow at 12:00. I have another meeting at 13 but that should give us plenty of time. For thos of you actually in college and want to meet in person, I have booked Blackett 532. For those wishing to join on teams the coords are: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Name: Managed Devices Start: Mon Nov 28 2022 12:00:00 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time) End: Mon Nov 28 2022 13:00:00 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time) Id: ff530f5e-239f-4f72-814e-bc10308feea9 URL: https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_Y2RiNzI0ODQtZDJlZS00… xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx If you cannot make it tomorrow and want to send in a contribution by email in advance then please do so although I do suspect thatn almost everything has already been said. Best, david

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Physics Computing meeting tomorrow 12:00->13:00
by David Colling 07 Oct '22

07 Oct '22

Hi All, We will have our computing meeting tomorrow between 12:00 and 13:00. The meeting will be mixed in person and teams. The in person part will be in Blackett 532. I was going to give a teams link, however as some of you know, I cannot a meeting in specific team because I don't have an outlook calendar. So I thought it would be better if I could ask somebody who can to book the meeting in the Physics Computing Team and then send the link to all on this email (not just the list). That way it will be in the right place. Volunteers? (Rich?) At the moment the agenda is looking like: - Actions from previous meetings. - Update from RCS (especially new system purchase) - General update from ICT - Update on Mac situation - Wifi issues on level 10 and 11 - "uniform access"? - Producers of data in physics - what are their needs etc? - RSE discussion - AoB I will put the agenda in a document in teams tomorrow morning so if you have anything add or change let please let me know. Best, david

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Next Physics Departmental Computing 7th October
by David Colling 04 Oct '22

04 Oct '22

Thanks to those who filled in the doodle poll, the most popular date was Friday 7th October so let's fix that date now.

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11am this Thursday - Meeting with ICT to discuss issues with college policy on Apple devices
by David Colling 16 Sep '22

16 Sep '22

Dear FoNS and Physics Computing people, A number of people raised issues concerning how college now "take over" new Apple computers. My apologies for the short notice but we are having a meeting with ICT in their operations slot this Thursday to discuss these issues and how we can progress in a constructive way. All are welcome to this meeting and ICT will be represented at the highest level. Please circulate this message to anybody who you think will be interested as this issue seems to have been a pain in the neck for quite a number of people. If you cannot make it then please send me details of how this has caused you problems so that I can relay them - please make these simple as I am not really a Mac user. I hope that this meeting also addresses the wider subject of how ICT tries to bring in changes of this sort. Best, david

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Next physics computing meeting
by David Colling 06 Sep '22

06 Sep '22

Dear All, I hope that you have had a good summer. It is time for us to set the date of the next meeting of the departmental computing committee. The FoNS Research Computing Committee (FRCC) is always one week before the FoNS Research Meeting and we try to have the Physics Computing Committee in the week or so before that so that information can cascade. The next FRCC is on the 12th October so I have put in a doodle for the week or so before then. As ever the the meetings will be at lunch time. The link to the doodle poll is: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/axvojkqd The only group who are not currently represented on this committee are Photonics, and so I have cc'ed Mike and Paul so that somebody from that group can join us. Best, david

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Computing committee meeting: Thursday 7th July at 12pm - hybrid Teams and 532 Blackett
by Physics Executive Assistant 06 Jul '22

06 Jul '22

Dear All, Please see below the Teams link for tomorrow's computing committee meeting at 12pm. I've also sent the link to your outlook calendars. _______________________________________________________________________________ Microsoft Teams meeting Join on your computer or mobile app Click here to join the meeting<https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_YjMwZjUzNjEtMGNiMC00…> [https://www.imperial.ac.uk/ict/assets/imperial_blue_small_logo.jpg] Learn More<https://aka.ms/JoinTeamsMeeting> | Meeting options<https://teams.microsoft.com/meetingOptions/?organizerId=5f718f48-528a-4ad0-…> | Legal<https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/administration-and-suppor…> ________________________________________________________________________________ Regards, Gayle

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Physics Computing Committee meeting
by Physics Executive Assistant 06 Jul '22

06 Jul '22

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Physics Computing meeting: discuss computing in physics
by Physics Executive Assistant 06 Jul '22

06 Jul '22

________________________________________________________________________________ Microsoft Teams meeting Join on your computer or mobile app Click here to join the meeting<https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_YjMwZjUzNjEtMGNiMC00…> [https://www.imperial.ac.uk/ict/assets/imperial_blue_small_logo.jpg] Learn More<https://aka.ms/JoinTeamsMeeting> | Meeting options<https://teams.microsoft.com/meetingOptions/?organizerId=5f718f48-528a-4ad0-…> | Legal<https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/administration-and-suppor…> ________________________________________________________________________________

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Please answer the doodle by 5pm Wednesday - Meeting to discuss computing in physics teaching
by David Colling 02 Jul '22

02 Jul '22

Dear All, You will recall that during our Physics Computing Committee meeting on the 14th that there were a significant number of teaching related issue. We decided to have a separate meeting with more people from ICT rather than just poor Ellen on whom lots of actions were landing. Ellen has suggested that the correct people from ICT are Leigh Davenport and Neil Hanham as well as Ellen herself. I have created a doodle poll for all concerned. As we tend to have computing meetings at lunchtime I have stuck to lunchtimes for this meeting. If that is not workable I will broaden but lets try this first. Anybody will be welcome at this meeting but I think that we need at least the 3 people from ICT, Luke, the heads of first and second year computing and anybody who uses computing in their courses. The doodle poll is at: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/er0po84b Please can you fill it in by 5pm tomorrow (Wednesday) so that I can try to mail a date tomorrow evening. Best, david

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FW: H Drive Migration Follow Up
by Bantges, Richard J 17 Jun '22

17 Jun '22

Dear Physics Dept Computing Reps, If you are interested in being involved in a discussion with ICT surrounding the migration of the H: drive to One Drive, then please see the invitation to the "follow up meeting" below. The initial meeting was held on Teams a couple of weeks ago and provided a background to the proposal. I think there are some very important implications, most notably for the teaching labs, and potentially others that rely on the H: drive. The process is at the stage where there is a good opportunity to provide guidance and influence to the process. If you have any specific questions about the process, timescales, etc. but are unable to attend the meeting, then I would advise that you contact Ingrid directly, or let me know your specific concerns and I will try to convey these on your behalf. Happy hot Friday, and wishing everyone a good weekend. Rich -----Original Appointment----- From: Joannou, Ingrid <i.joannou(a)imperial.ac.uk<mailto:i.joannou@imperial.ac.uk>> Sent: 17 June 2022 13:15 To: Joannou, Ingrid; Bantges, Richard J; Bearpark, Michael J; Beeby, Morgan; Bosio, Christian; Cantwell, Chris; Cinosi, Nicolas; Clifford, Neil T; Corrall, Gary D; De La Force, Chris; Fayer, Simon; Guitton, Florian L P; Head, Martin K; Higgs, Peter J; Islam, Suhail A; Johnson, Eric; Jones, William P; Kamara, Lloyd D; Khandker, Rashed; Mallia, Giuseppe; McLachlan, Duncan J; Mohammed, Idris Kevin; Nixon, Oliver D; Oliver, Gareth; Franklyn, Paul J; Pietzuch, Peter R; Raghwani, Neel D; Satheeshkumar, Ma; Sherwin, Spencer J; Stephenson, Richard; Stuart, Graham M; Thomas, Andy D; Vincent, Peter E; White, Duncan C; White, Luke A; Wood, Nicholas E M; Thomas, Sarah J F; Shaw, Rosie A; Samuel, Desmond; Haydon, Matthew; Aziz, Ayesha; Kerr, Stuart T; Yip, Alexander Subject: H Drive Migration Follow Up When: 04 July 2022 14:00-15:00 (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Where: Dear All, Thank you to those of you who were able to attend our first meeting regarding the H Drive migration to One Drive. We received quite a lot of feedback and questions at our first meeting so this meeting is to follow up on those and start addressing next steps. There was mention of some people missing from this group so please do not hesitate to forward the invite if I have missed them. Kind Regards, Ingrid ________________________________________________________________________________ Microsoft Teams meeting Join on your computer or mobile app Click here to join the meeting<https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_NWFlNzRkYzMtYjI5OC00…> [https://www.imperial.ac.uk/ict/assets/imperial_blue_small_logo.jpg] Learn more<https://aka.ms/JoinTeamsMeeting> | Meeting options<https://teams.microsoft.com/meetingOptions/?organizerId=add04a20-8545-483d-…> | Legal<https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/administration-and-suppor…> ________________________________________________________________________________

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