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- 1433 discussions
I wonder if anyone on this list (which seems to be back to normal!) might
be going to the ACS meeting and might wish to post a report
which they might consider relevant to the list? I expect the
Internet Corral at the ACS will be bigger than ever. But a word
of caution! Look at the signature file (they use Eudora). Last year
I sent out such a report from Orlando signed as Mickey Mouse!!
I myself attended the UK serials group this week. Some interesting
trends on e-journals were evident
a) Publishers are clustering in order to achieve a critical mass of
e-journals, apparently considered to be > 100.
b) This cluster is then presented to consortia of Universities in the
form of site licenses. The UK has such an agreement with Academic
Press, and apparently a good working model is to be found in the
State of Ohio in the USA.
c) It seems that the chemist might not gain too much, in the sense
that the e-journal clusters are not necessarily subject based, but
are broad-spectrum. for example, there is not too much chemistry
in the AP cluster.
d) Its not too obvious to anyone where the small publisher
with specialist journals fits in (except the message is, join a
consortium!). Also, chemically "enhanced" journals
cause publishers problems, since they do not conform to the
lowest common denominator of "full text".
Finally, on this theme, I wonder if people have any feedback
on the new crop of chemistry e-journals, or enhanced journals,
1. Chemical Educator
2. Journal of Molecular Modeling
3. Molecules
4. Electronic Journal of Theoretical Chemistry
5. CLIC Enhanced ChemComm.
Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY;
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The easiest way for me to stop the flood is to change to majordomo
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
----------------------
Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
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Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd>
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
----------------------
Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
Tel. 01224 272931
m.masson@abdn..ac.uk
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
----------------------
Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
Tel. 01224 272931
m.masson@abdn..ac.uk
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Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd>
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
----------------------
Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
Tel. 01224 272931
m.masson@abdn..ac.uk
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
----------------------
Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
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Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd>
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
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Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
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I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our
librarian - this is his response.
Mary Masson
> >
> Mary,
> It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals
> shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it
> becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at
> the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume.
>
> The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged
> up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or,
> indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they
> are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our
> users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated
> with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD
> collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus
> increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to
> record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means
> breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical
> cataloguing methodology)? Or what???
>
> What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the
> finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the
> binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be
> wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines.
>
> I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I
> wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the
> outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the
> status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity
> (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there
> is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are
> "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened!
>
> By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in
> finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for
> example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!!
> This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." .
>
> Cheers
> Allan
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Allan Stewart
> Principal Information Consultant
> Directorate of Information Systems & Services
> Queen Mother Library
> Meston Walk
> Aberdeen
> AB24 3UE
>
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Dr Mary Masson
Department of Chemistry,
University of Aberdeen,
Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
Tel. 01224 272931
m.masson@abdn..ac.uk
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