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by mailadm＠bid.de 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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please stop this sending these messages
by mmchughes＠cas.org 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

I am stuck in some kind of loop and have been getting this message all day today. Forwarded mail follows: >From mailadm(a)bid.de Thu Apr 10 15:12:04 1997 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:04:12 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFOw1-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Content-Length: 10138 Content-Length: 10138 You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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by mailadm＠bid.de 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFNGC-0003FAa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 19:03 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFN7T-000NRUa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 18:54 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFLln-0004V9-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:15 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id QAA22895; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:14 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFLXm-0003FBC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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10 Apr '97

You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFLXg-0003FAa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 17:13 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFL67-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 16:45 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFL1y-0004M9-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:40:55 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id PAA20405; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:40:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:40:54 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFKT3-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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by mailadm＠bid.de 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFKSx-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 16:04 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFK7J-000NRZa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:42 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFK5S-0004CU-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:26 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id OAA17543; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:25 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFJqX-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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by mailadm＠bid.de 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd>
by Dr Mary Masson 10 Apr '97

10 Apr '97

I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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RE: Don't waste ECHET
by Keith Wilkinson 08 Apr '97

08 Apr '97

---------- From: David Bradley Science Writer[SMTP:Bradley@enterprise.net] Sent: 08 April 1997 09:53 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Don't waste ECHET > am now wondering just what to do with it. I could add it to stock > and have it held behind the "counter". However my main concern is Why not simply get a CD rack and keep the empty cases on display (or get some cases and print some informative labels, (keeping the CD itself secure) give the whole thing an accession number, so that it can be withdrawn on a very short term loan, just as a public library handles CD's and other such media. That would handle the two issues you're worried about, viz. security, and availability. You'd also have a system in place to take care of future expansion of such resources. keith wilkinson wincoll ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6.
by John R. Nash 08 Apr '97

08 Apr '97

L.A.Crawshaw(a)herts.ac.UK wrote: >However my main concern is that it is a Windows 95 >version. We do not have Windows 95 yet, nor are likely to in the near future >- we are more likely to move toward Windows NT. So even if I add it to >stock, there is no machine here which can make use of it!! Am I correct in reading that this disc is "Win95 only"? If so (the issue hasn't surfaced here yet), I can think of very few computers and scientists here able to make much use of it. Should I presume that this is a "trial balloon" and that the disc will be made cross-platform in the future? I feel bad speaking ill of something that I haven't yet seen and whose concept I support wholeheartedly, but frankly the tools are available to make hybrid discs and the target audience certainly has a large amount of MacOS users. A related tangent: there seems to be significant momentum for Java being a "write it only once" cross-platform solution. Are there electronic publishing systems written in Java in development (or existing)? Like many people, I have been underwhelmed by Java's performance over the web (largely due to the bandwidth problem), but I'm interested in how well it works on a local computer or intranet level.... Hoping I can browse ECHET96 in the future (and certainly ECTOC97!), john nash -==-John R. Nash-==-nash(a)chem.wisc.edu-==-UW-Madison Chem. Dept-==- --- "When in doubt, roll!" --- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Don't waste ECHET
by David Bradley Science Writer 08 Apr '97

08 Apr '97

> am now wondering just what to do with it. I could add it to stock > and have it held behind the "counter". However my main concern is Perhaps the best thing to do is to send an e-memo or make an announcement in the library's "What's new?" section on its web page bringing such additions to the stock to the attention of potential users (many of whom will have Mac/Win95/NT, for viewing ECHET96). It is inevitable that such resources will increase and it is a shame to waste them. ECHET96 carries on the CD much useful stuff other than the basic conference itself, such as, Chem Comm enhanced articles, CML information and numerous examples of 3D molecules. David Bradley -------------------------------------------------------- | David Bradley Science Writer | | Bradley(a)enterprise.net | | Tel/Fax +44 1223 440834 (Intl) | | Tel/Fax 01223 440834 (UK) | | | | http://homepages.enterprise.net/bradley/bradhome.html | -------------------------------------------------------- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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