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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFT7R-0003FAa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 01:19 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSti-000NRUa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 01:04 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFSsg-0005mG-00; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:50 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id AAA07409; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:49 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFSei-0003F6C(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSeY-0003FAa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:49 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSQV-000NRWa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:34 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFRks-0005XI-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA05951; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:41 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFRVK-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFRVE-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 23:35 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFRCH-000NRZa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 23:15 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFRAf-0005Ss-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:17 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA05127; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:16 +0100 Message-Id: <v03102801af731289390a(a)[155.198.63.18]> Reply-To: h.rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Rzepa, Henry" <h.rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Mail from mailadm(a)bid.de X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list Re: "You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp " Please accept my regrets that this message has appeared some 12 times already today. The message is originating from mailadm(a)bid.de and because the list is currently unmoderated, I have no control over what a remote site sends to chemweb! Part of the problem lies in the use of the "listserver" program, where errors of this kind are sent to the list, rather than to its moderator. I have copied the administrator of bid.de in, in the hope that they can also do something to stop this flood. The easiest way for me to stop the flood is to change to majordomo as a listserver. Here, errors do go to the moderator rather than to the list. As far as you folks are concerned, the only difference is a) messages to subscribe (or as a few have done as a result of the error message, unsubscribe) must be sent to majordomo(a)ic.ac.uk rather than listserver b) Some of the other syntax to control the list changes c) The archive will also change to http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ This can probably be accomplished tomorrow by Jason. Unfortunately, I will be out all day, so cannot monitor the process. So please bear with us. I do hope you can manage to just junk the offending messages, and don't feel you have to unsubscribe from the forum. Fortunately, such rogue messages are quite rare (although you may not feel so today). Many thanks. Henry Rzepa. +44 171 594 5774 (Office) +44 594 5804 (Fax) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFT7J-0003F6a; Fri, 11 Apr 97 01:18 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFStE-000NRTa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 01:04 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFSsJ-0005lH-00; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:27 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id AAA07331; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:03:26 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFSeY-0003FBC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSB4-0003F6a; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:18 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFS1v-000NRUa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:09 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFR11-0005PL-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA04765; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:18 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFQoG-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFQoA-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 22:51 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFQZV-000NRUa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 22:35 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFQYH-0005IJ-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:34:37 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id VAA03904; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:34:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:34:37 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFQKl-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFKSx-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 16:04 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFK7J-000NRZa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:42 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFK5S-0004CU-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:26 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id OAA17543; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:40:25 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFJqX-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSeY-0003FAa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:49 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSQV-000NRWa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:34 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFRks-0005XI-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA05951; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:51:41 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFRVK-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFRVE-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 23:35 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFRCH-000NRZa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 23:15 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFRAf-0005Ss-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:17 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA05127; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:14:16 +0100 Message-Id: <v03102801af731289390a(a)[155.198.63.18]> Reply-To: h.rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Rzepa, Henry" <h.rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Mail from mailadm(a)bid.de X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list Re: "You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp " Please accept my regrets that this message has appeared some 12 times already today. The message is originating from mailadm(a)bid.de and because the list is currently unmoderated, I have no control over what a remote site sends to chemweb! Part of the problem lies in the use of the "listserver" program, where errors of this kind are sent to the list, rather than to its moderator. I have copied the administrator of bid.de in, in the hope that they can also do something to stop this flood. The easiest way for me to stop the flood is to change to majordomo as a listserver. Here, errors do go to the moderator rather than to the list. As far as you folks are concerned, the only difference is a) messages to subscribe (or as a few have done as a result of the error message, unsubscribe) must be sent to majordomo(a)ic.ac.uk rather than listserver b) Some of the other syntax to control the list changes c) The archive will also change to http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ This can probably be accomplished tomorrow by Jason. Unfortunately, I will be out all day, so cannot monitor the process. So please bear with us. I do hope you can manage to just junk the offending messages, and don't feel you have to unsubscribe from the forum. Fortunately, such rogue messages are quite rare (although you may not feel so today). Many thanks. Henry Rzepa. +44 171 594 5774 (Office) +44 594 5804 (Fax) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFSB4-0003F6a; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:18 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFS1v-000NRUa; Fri, 11 Apr 97 00:09 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFR11-0005PL-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:19 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id WAA04765; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:04:18 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFQoG-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFPs1-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 21:50 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFPek-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 21:37 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFPd8-00057D-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:35:34 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id UAA01798; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:35:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:35:33 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFPNO-0003FAC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFNGC-0003FAa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 19:03 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFN7T-000NRUa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 18:54 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFLln-0004V9-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:15 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id QAA22895; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:28:14 +0100 Message-Id: <m0wFLXm-0003FBC(a)gatekeeper.bid.de> Reply-To: mailadm(a)bid.de Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: mailadm(a)bid.de To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list You are not allowed to send mail to the internet! 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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