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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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Received: from mail.bid.de by gatekeeper.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJqS-0003F6a; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:24 MET DST Received: from bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk by mail.bid.de with smtp with Smail id m0wFJTn-000NRTa; Thu, 10 Apr 97 15:01 MET DST Received: from listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.6] by bowmore.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #2) id 0wFJNC-00045H-00; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:42 +0100 Received: from by listserver.mm.ic.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/4.0) id NAA15067; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:54:41 +0100 Message-Id: <SIMEON.9704101311.E(a)selenium.abdn.ac.uk> Reply-To: che055(a)abdn.ac.uk Originator: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Sender: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Dr Mary Masson <che055(a)abdn.ac.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ECHET96 CD-ROM and ChemComm issue 6. <fwd> X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Chemistry Webmasters Discussion list I forwarded the query about the ECHET96 CD-ROM to our librarian - this is his response. Mary Masson > > > Mary, > It nestles in an ***unopened pocket*** on the current periodicals > shelves. These items are, of course not borrowable at present. When it > becomes borrowable it will be security taped and left in the pocket at > the back and eventually bound into the finshed volume. > > The real problem is the fact that these "freebies" are not well flagged > up on the covers and are therefore vulnerable to theft or damage or, > indeed, interpretable as "junk mail". The other problem is that they > are proliferating leaving the problem for us and every one of our > users: What do we do with, say, 10 CDs that have been loosly associated > with one volume of a journal? Make them separately available in a new CD > collection? Specially bind them into pockets at the back (thus > increasing binding costs and catalogue complications - for you have to > record what they contain and that they are in the journal and that means > breaking into our fairly uncomplicated "low maintenance" periodical > cataloguing methodology)? Or what??? > > What we tend to do is to put such CDs into pockets at the back of the > finally bound volume and pray that they don't walk ***before*** the > binding. Floppies are, of course a different problem as they can be > wiped by our senistiser/desensitiser machines. > > I can understand why publishers want to distribute in this way. But I > wish they would: 1) ***clearly*** flag the presence of a disk on the > outside front cover. 2) Consider whether such disks are to be given the > status of a supplementary series or some other bibliographic identity > (there's a clear paper analogue here) or what. The more ambiguity there > is about status the more chance that someone will decide that they are > "junk mail" and throw them out - and yes this has happened! > > By the way, am I being a bit professionally over-sensitive here in > finding that I am not too happy about the phrase: " Our librarian for > example actually noticed the bulge. . .". ACTUALLY NOTICED!!!!! > This might be read as: "the poor ninny hardly notices anything. . ." . > > Cheers > Allan > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Allan Stewart > Principal Information Consultant > Directorate of Information Systems & Services > Queen Mother Library > Meston Walk > Aberdeen > AB24 3UE > ---------------------- Dr Mary Masson Department of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen, Meston Walk, Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE Tel. 01224 272931 m.masson@abdn..ac.uk ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. 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