Fwd: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure
Dear All, Below is an email from me to the Computing reps from the other departments in the faculty and below that an email from Paul French describing the situation. I would be really grateful if you could survey your groups to try to provide answers to some of the questions and points that I make. Thanks you. best, david -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:25:37 +0100 From: David Colling <d.colling@imperial.ac.uk> To: French, Paul (PHOT) M W <paul.french@imperial.ac.uk>, Staffell, Iain L <i.staffell@imperial.ac.uk>, Armstrong-Brown, Sophie <s.armstrong-brown@imperial.ac.uk>, Sternberg, Michael J E <m.sternberg@imperial.ac.uk>, Keaveny, Eric E <e.keaveny@imperial.ac.uk>, Bresme, Fernando <f.bresme@imperial.ac.uk> Dear Paul, Thanks for this it is very timely indeed. The first meeting of the group is on Thursday afternoon this week and I would really like some information from each of you and the roles that Research Computing Services plays in your department. I had a chat with Richard Craster this morning and we agreed that we shouldn't just this exercise in stopping things from falling apart but also (and hopefully mainly) as a way of influencing things so that we get a research computing service that delivers what our research needs. Some of the areas that we thought might be important are: - Obviously the HPC service. - flexibility to work with a group and have the expertise to recommend what would best solve their problem (HPC, GPU, Cloud services ...). This could also mean RSE effort (is the RSE service appropriately costed ?) - The ability to support legacy system. Just because the OS that controls a world class instrument goes out of warrantee the instrument may not stop being world class. - Knowledge of secure systems where groups have sensitive (sometimes patient) data. - Do they play any role in grant applications? - What is important to you and what would you like to be provided? - Anything else that you can think of... So I would be grateful if you could make the most appropriate survey of your department to see what is good (and not so good) about the current service and what would make it the service we really want. In organisational terms is it simply a service or should we change the name to reflect how it works with research groups? Anyway, all thought and input are welcome. best, david On 29/06/2020 18:12, French, Paul (PHOT) M W wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing because you are the nominated Research Computing representatives for your Department.
As you may know, David Colling represents FoNS on the group advising on research computing for the ICT restructuring and Richard has suggested that we meet for the first time and hear from David on progress.
Please complete this Doodle Poll to identify a suitable time: https://doodle.com/poll/5gykt6ns6cznwunw
Of course this will be a Teams meeting
Best wishes,
Paul
Hi David, Very happy to poll SPAT and compile responses - what's the deadline (people don't respond without one in my experience) - by the end of Friday, is that ok? Cheers, Rich -----Original Message----- From: physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk [mailto:physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Colling Sent: 29 June 2020 21:28 To: physics-departmental-computing <physics-departmental-computing@imperial.ac.uk> Subject: [Physics-Departmental-Computing] Fwd: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure Dear All, Below is an email from me to the Computing reps from the other departments in the faculty and below that an email from Paul French describing the situation. I would be really grateful if you could survey your groups to try to provide answers to some of the questions and points that I make. Thanks you. best, david -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:25:37 +0100 From: David Colling <d.colling@imperial.ac.uk> To: French, Paul (PHOT) M W <paul.french@imperial.ac.uk>, Staffell, Iain L <i.staffell@imperial.ac.uk>, Armstrong-Brown, Sophie <s.armstrong-brown@imperial.ac.uk>, Sternberg, Michael J E <m.sternberg@imperial.ac.uk>, Keaveny, Eric E <e.keaveny@imperial.ac.uk>, Bresme, Fernando <f.bresme@imperial.ac.uk> Dear Paul, Thanks for this it is very timely indeed. The first meeting of the group is on Thursday afternoon this week and I would really like some information from each of you and the roles that Research Computing Services plays in your department. I had a chat with Richard Craster this morning and we agreed that we shouldn't just this exercise in stopping things from falling apart but also (and hopefully mainly) as a way of influencing things so that we get a research computing service that delivers what our research needs. Some of the areas that we thought might be important are: - Obviously the HPC service. - flexibility to work with a group and have the expertise to recommend what would best solve their problem (HPC, GPU, Cloud services ...). This could also mean RSE effort (is the RSE service appropriately costed ?) - The ability to support legacy system. Just because the OS that controls a world class instrument goes out of warrantee the instrument may not stop being world class. - Knowledge of secure systems where groups have sensitive (sometimes patient) data. - Do they play any role in grant applications? - What is important to you and what would you like to be provided? - Anything else that you can think of... So I would be grateful if you could make the most appropriate survey of your department to see what is good (and not so good) about the current service and what would make it the service we really want. In organisational terms is it simply a service or should we change the name to reflect how it works with research groups? Anyway, all thought and input are welcome. best, david On 29/06/2020 18:12, French, Paul (PHOT) M W wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing because you are the nominated Research Computing representatives for your Department.
As you may know, David Colling represents FoNS on the group advising on research computing for the ICT restructuring and Richard has suggested that we meet for the first time and hear from David on progress.
Please complete this Doodle Poll to identify a suitable time: https://doodle.com/poll/5gykt6ns6cznwunw
Of course this will be a Teams meeting
Best wishes,
Paul
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The first meeting of the committee is Thursday afternoon, but that might be rather ambitious.... what do you think? On 30/06/2020 08:16, Bantges, Richard J wrote:
Hi David,
Very happy to poll SPAT and compile responses - what's the deadline (people don't respond without one in my experience) - by the end of Friday, is that ok?
Cheers, Rich
-----Original Message----- From: physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk [mailto:physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Colling Sent: 29 June 2020 21:28 To: physics-departmental-computing <physics-departmental-computing@imperial.ac.uk> Subject: [Physics-Departmental-Computing] Fwd: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure
Dear All,
Below is an email from me to the Computing reps from the other departments in the faculty and below that an email from Paul French describing the situation.
I would be really grateful if you could survey your groups to try to provide answers to some of the questions and points that I make.
Thanks you.
best, david
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:25:37 +0100 From: David Colling <d.colling@imperial.ac.uk> To: French, Paul (PHOT) M W <paul.french@imperial.ac.uk>, Staffell, Iain L <i.staffell@imperial.ac.uk>, Armstrong-Brown, Sophie <s.armstrong-brown@imperial.ac.uk>, Sternberg, Michael J E <m.sternberg@imperial.ac.uk>, Keaveny, Eric E <e.keaveny@imperial.ac.uk>, Bresme, Fernando <f.bresme@imperial.ac.uk>
Dear Paul,
Thanks for this it is very timely indeed.
The first meeting of the group is on Thursday afternoon this week and I would really like some information from each of you and the roles that Research Computing Services plays in your department.
I had a chat with Richard Craster this morning and we agreed that we shouldn't just this exercise in stopping things from falling apart but also (and hopefully mainly) as a way of influencing things so that we get a research computing service that delivers what our research needs.
Some of the areas that we thought might be important are:
- Obviously the HPC service.
- flexibility to work with a group and have the expertise to recommend what would best solve their problem (HPC, GPU, Cloud services ...). This could also mean RSE effort (is the RSE service appropriately costed ?)
- The ability to support legacy system. Just because the OS that controls a world class instrument goes out of warrantee the instrument may not stop being world class.
- Knowledge of secure systems where groups have sensitive (sometimes patient) data.
- Do they play any role in grant applications?
- What is important to you and what would you like to be provided?
- Anything else that you can think of...
So I would be grateful if you could make the most appropriate survey of your department to see what is good (and not so good) about the current service and what would make it the service we really want.
In organisational terms is it simply a service or should we change the name to reflect how it works with research groups?
Anyway, all thought and input are welcome.
best, david
On 29/06/2020 18:12, French, Paul (PHOT) M W wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing because you are the nominated Research Computing representatives for your Department.
As you may know, David Colling represents FoNS on the group advising on research computing for the ICT restructuring and Richard has suggested that we meet for the first time and hear from David on progress.
Please complete this Doodle Poll to identify a suitable time: https://doodle.com/poll/5gykt6ns6cznwunw
Of course this will be a Teams meeting
Best wishes,
Paul
_______________________________________________ Physics-Departmental-Computing mailing list Physics-Departmental-Computing@imperial.ac.uk https://mailman.ic.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/physics-departmental-computing
Hi David, I've had a few responses from academics in SPAT which I'm collating and will forward a summary to you (not the entire committee unless this is useful for everyone?) by 11am today - hopefully in time to be useful for your committee meeting this afternoon. Hope you're all having a good week so far - July already?! where did Apr, May and June go?! Best wishes, Rich -----Original Message----- From: David Colling [mailto:d.colling@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 30 June 2020 09:46 To: Bantges, Richard J <r.bantges@imperial.ac.uk>; physics-departmental-computing <physics-departmental-computing@imperial.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [Physics-Departmental-Computing] Fwd: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure The first meeting of the committee is Thursday afternoon, but that might be rather ambitious.... what do you think? On 30/06/2020 08:16, Bantges, Richard J wrote:
Hi David,
Very happy to poll SPAT and compile responses - what's the deadline (people don't respond without one in my experience) - by the end of Friday, is that ok?
Cheers, Rich
-----Original Message----- From: physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk [mailto:physics-departmental-computing-bounces@imperial.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Colling Sent: 29 June 2020 21:28 To: physics-departmental-computing <physics-departmental-computing@imperial.ac.uk> Subject: [Physics-Departmental-Computing] Fwd: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure
Dear All,
Below is an email from me to the Computing reps from the other departments in the faculty and below that an email from Paul French describing the situation.
I would be really grateful if you could survey your groups to try to provide answers to some of the questions and points that I make.
Thanks you.
best, david
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Teams meeting to discuss research computing and ICT restructure Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:25:37 +0100 From: David Colling <d.colling@imperial.ac.uk> To: French, Paul (PHOT) M W <paul.french@imperial.ac.uk>, Staffell, Iain L <i.staffell@imperial.ac.uk>, Armstrong-Brown, Sophie <s.armstrong-brown@imperial.ac.uk>, Sternberg, Michael J E <m.sternberg@imperial.ac.uk>, Keaveny, Eric E <e.keaveny@imperial.ac.uk>, Bresme, Fernando <f.bresme@imperial.ac.uk>
Dear Paul,
Thanks for this it is very timely indeed.
The first meeting of the group is on Thursday afternoon this week and I would really like some information from each of you and the roles that Research Computing Services plays in your department.
I had a chat with Richard Craster this morning and we agreed that we shouldn't just this exercise in stopping things from falling apart but also (and hopefully mainly) as a way of influencing things so that we get a research computing service that delivers what our research needs.
Some of the areas that we thought might be important are:
- Obviously the HPC service.
- flexibility to work with a group and have the expertise to recommend what would best solve their problem (HPC, GPU, Cloud services ...). This could also mean RSE effort (is the RSE service appropriately costed ?)
- The ability to support legacy system. Just because the OS that controls a world class instrument goes out of warrantee the instrument may not stop being world class.
- Knowledge of secure systems where groups have sensitive (sometimes patient) data.
- Do they play any role in grant applications?
- What is important to you and what would you like to be provided?
- Anything else that you can think of...
So I would be grateful if you could make the most appropriate survey of your department to see what is good (and not so good) about the current service and what would make it the service we really want.
In organisational terms is it simply a service or should we change the name to reflect how it works with research groups?
Anyway, all thought and input are welcome.
best, david
On 29/06/2020 18:12, French, Paul (PHOT) M W wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing because you are the nominated Research Computing representatives for your Department.
As you may know, David Colling represents FoNS on the group advising on research computing for the ICT restructuring and Richard has suggested that we meet for the first time and hear from David on progress.
Please complete this Doodle Poll to identify a suitable time: https://doodle.com/poll/5gykt6ns6cznwunw
Of course this will be a Teams meeting
Best wishes,
Paul
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Bantges, Richard J
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David Colling