Dear All, I think that we have probably done the Mathematica conversation to death. So I thought that I would summarise the situation as a way of rounding off the discussion this time around (although I do have a couple of questions to which I would like replies - so not quite over yet). I am sure that we will revisit the particular nugget again. - I have done a few google searches (as I know have a couple of other people have as well) and it appears that other things like Maple are good they are not as good as Mathematica for difficult problems. Also people are used to using it and like it. The science must come first and so we need to be able to use Mathematica. - College now traces all illegal use and stops it (and Carlo, there were certainly some illegal copies in theory). - We have a variety of licenses purchased in a variety of ways. Individual licenses, some as part of the 3 year plan etc. - At the end of the 3 year plan we had decided to move to a department wide license server so this is where the questions come in. o When exactly does the current 3 year agreement come to an end? o How many groups have license servers at the moment? I have a feeling it is 2 or 3 ... I have it in my notes but as I am asking other questions it is quicker to ask it again than trawl through my notes. o Am I correct in thinking that these are floating licenses in the sense that that matters is how concurrent users there are and that they are not locked to individual seats or users? o How many licenses do people currently have and how many would they like? o Would this arrangement also work for the DTC machines? If so how many licenses would be needed here (an extra 50?) o These licenses ate ~£145/license/year and you have to buy them year on year for 3 years - is this the arrangement? - Wolfram would like us to buy a site licenses at £30K. We don't want to send this. - I will keep you posted of any news I hear. Is there anything else that I have missed. All the best, david