Hello everyone; I'm trying to get up to speed with ganga/Dirac to help a local consortium get moving with a bioinformatics project. I've got so far as this (working not shown... :-): j=Job() j.backend=Dirac() j.inputfiles=[ DiracFile('LFN:/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid/TEST.md')] j.submit() which sent the job to Brunel as I intended, but the job hasn't started. In fact Raul says he can't see my job in the Brunel queues. Ganga In [2]: jobs Ganga Out [2]: Registry Slice: jobs (1 objects) -------------- fqid | status | name | subjobs | application | backend | backend.actualCE | comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18 | submitted | | | Executable | Dirac | LCG.UKI-LT2-Brunel.uk | Ganga In [3]: jobs(18) Ganga Out [3]: Job ( comment = , parallel_submit = False, outputdir = /home/eesridr/gangadir/workspace/eesridr/LocalXML/18/output/, id = 18, status = submitted, do_auto_resubmit = False, name = , inputdir = /home/eesridr/gangadir/workspace/eesridr/LocalXML/18/input/, outputsandbox = [] , inputfiles = [ DiracFile ( remoteDir = '', lfn = '/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid/TEST.md', locations = [] , namePattern = 'TEST.md', compressed = False, defaultSE = '', guid = '', failureReason = '', localDir = 'LFN:/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid', subfiles = [] , credential_requirements = DiracProxy ( group = 'vo.londongrid.ac.uk_user', encodeDefaultProxyFileName = True ) )] , backend = Dirac ( status = Waiting, actualCE = LCG.UKI-LT2-Brunel.uk, settings = [CPUTime], normCPUTime = None, extraInfo = Unknown, diracOpts = , statusInfo = Pilot Agent Submission, id = 2358859, credential_requirements = DiracProxy ( group = vo.londongrid.ac.uk_user, encodeDefaultProxyFileName = True ) ) , subjobs = Registry Slice: jobs(18).subjobs (0 objects) , application = Executable ( exe = echo, hash = cfa689697ba25ae38f7a47b232ea3e7c, env = [], args = [Hello World] , is_prepared = ShareDir(name='conf-1e388c1b-a0ba-4de3-a1a0-422f4842a99b',subdir='.') ) , inputdata =None, metadata = {} , outputfiles = [] , postprocessors = [] , info = JobInfo ( monitoring_links = [] , uuid = 705ca203-f9d3-4c6c-b699-851515a6984d, submit_counter = 1, monitor =None ) , splitter =None, inputsandbox = [] , outputdata =None, time = JobTime ( timestamps = Time (UTC) Status - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2017/03/30 17:04:23 - new 2017/03/30 17:06:37 - submitting 2017/03/30 17:06:39 - submitted ) ) Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong/not doing greatly appreciated. Cheers, ivan -- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
Hi Ivan, I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots. It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account: $ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021 (I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role). Regards, Simon On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 05:06:55PM +0100, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
Hello everyone; I'm trying to get up to speed with ganga/Dirac to help a local consortium get moving with a bioinformatics project. I've got so far as this (working not shown... :-):
j=Job() j.backend=Dirac() j.inputfiles=[ DiracFile('LFN:/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid/TEST.md')] j.submit()
which sent the job to Brunel as I intended, but the job hasn't started. In fact Raul says he can't see my job in the Brunel queues.
Ganga In [2]: jobs Ganga Out [2]: Registry Slice: jobs (1 objects) -------------- fqid | status | name | subjobs | application | backend | backend.actualCE | comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18 | submitted | | | Executable | Dirac | LCG.UKI-LT2-Brunel.uk |
Ganga In [3]: jobs(18) Ganga Out [3]: Job ( comment = , parallel_submit = False, outputdir = /home/eesridr/gangadir/workspace/eesridr/LocalXML/18/output/, id = 18, status = submitted, do_auto_resubmit = False, name = , inputdir = /home/eesridr/gangadir/workspace/eesridr/LocalXML/18/input/, outputsandbox = [] , inputfiles = [ DiracFile ( remoteDir = '', lfn = '/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid/TEST.md', locations = [] , namePattern = 'TEST.md', compressed = False, defaultSE = '', guid = '', failureReason = '', localDir = 'LFN:/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid', subfiles = [] , credential_requirements = DiracProxy ( group = 'vo.londongrid.ac.uk_user', encodeDefaultProxyFileName = True ) )] , backend = Dirac ( status = Waiting, actualCE = LCG.UKI-LT2-Brunel.uk, settings = [CPUTime], normCPUTime = None, extraInfo = Unknown, diracOpts = , statusInfo = Pilot Agent Submission, id = 2358859, credential_requirements = DiracProxy ( group = vo.londongrid.ac.uk_user, encodeDefaultProxyFileName = True ) ) , subjobs = Registry Slice: jobs(18).subjobs (0 objects) , application = Executable ( exe = echo, hash = cfa689697ba25ae38f7a47b232ea3e7c, env = [], args = [Hello World] , is_prepared = ShareDir(name='conf-1e388c1b-a0ba-4de3-a1a0-422f4842a99b',subdir='.') ) , inputdata =None, metadata = {} , outputfiles = [] , postprocessors = [] , info = JobInfo ( monitoring_links = [] , uuid = 705ca203-f9d3-4c6c-b699-851515a6984d, submit_counter = 1, monitor =None ) , splitter =None, inputsandbox = [] , outputdata =None, time = JobTime ( timestamps = Time (UTC) Status - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2017/03/30 17:04:23 - new 2017/03/30 17:06:37 - submitting 2017/03/30 17:06:39 - submitted
) )
Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong/not doing greatly appreciated.
Cheers, ivan
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Simon Fayer wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots.
It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account:
$ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021
(I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role).
Regards, Simon
OK, thanks Simon. I'll explicitly add Raul in Cc: in case he's not on the list, but he's in Brazil for the next two weeks so I don't expect a speedy resolution. Whatever; I've got until September to get this project up and running (and I'm tied up with GRIDPP for the rest of the week anyhow). Cheers, ivan -- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
Hi Ivan, you could try and specify Imperial as the destination site, that might work. Regards, Daniela On 4 April 2017 at 21:51, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Simon Fayer wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and
the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots.
It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to
submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account:
$ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk
220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.h ep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.h ep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.h ep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.h ep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021
(I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so
it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role).
Regards,
Simon
OK, thanks Simon. I'll explicitly add Raul in Cc: in case he's not on the list, but he's in Brazil for the next two weeks so I don't expect a speedy resolution. Whatever; I've got until September to get this project up and running (and I'm tied up with GRIDPP for the rest of the week anyhow).
Cheers, ivan
-- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
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Hi Daniela; On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Daniela Bauer wrote:
Hi Ivan,
you could try and specify Imperial as the destination site, that might work.
Regards, Daniela
As I mentioned to you in Brighton I was trying to force the job to run at Brunel because that's where our data will be. I've already used ganga to run test jobs using both LCG and Dirac backends (as well as Condor and Local) -- they ran at QMUL and RHUL. I'm loth to push the data to other sites as I'm told the datasets can get quite big -- you can see what was used earlier at root://dc2-grid-64.brunel.ac.uk/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/arshad.kahn At the moment I'm waiting for Raul's return, while trying to determine the best way of getting the data onto our SE -- the traditional way was a file containing 3,600 wget commands! So, I'm looking into job splitting, etc. Thanks, ivan
On 4 April 2017 at 21:51, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Simon Fayer wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and
the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots.
It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to
submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account:
$ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk
220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN=dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021
(I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so
it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role).
Regards,
Simon
OK, thanks Simon. I'll explicitly add Raul in Cc: in case he's not on the list, but he's in Brazil for the next two weeks so I don't expect a speedy resolution. Whatever; I've got until September to get this project up and running (and I'm tied up with GRIDPP for the rest of the week anyhow).
-- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
Hi Ivan, are those files registered in the dirac file catalogue ? (I assume they aren't.) If they are registered (and if you plan to use dirac in the long run, that's probably they way forward), then replicating them to another SE is fairly (emphasis on fairly) straightforward. Regards, Daniela On 11 April 2017 at 14:22, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Daniela; On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Daniela Bauer wrote:
Hi Ivan,
you could try and specify Imperial as the destination site, that might
work.
Regards,
Daniela
As I mentioned to you in Brighton I was trying to force the job to run at Brunel because that's where our data will be. I've already used ganga to run test jobs using both LCG and Dirac backends (as well as Condor and Local) -- they ran at QMUL and RHUL.
I'm loth to push the data to other sites as I'm told the datasets can get quite big -- you can see what was used earlier at root://dc2-grid-64.brunel.ac.uk/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/arshad.kahn
At the moment I'm waiting for Raul's return, while trying to determine the best way of getting the data onto our SE -- the traditional way was a file containing 3,600 wget commands! So, I'm looking into job splitting, etc.
Thanks, ivan
On 4 April 2017 at 21:51, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Simon Fayer wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and
the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots.
It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to
submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account:
$ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk
220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021
(I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so
it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role).
Regards,
Simon
OK, thanks Simon. I'll explicitly add Raul in Cc: in case he's
not on the list, but he's in Brazil for the next two weeks so I don't expect a speedy resolution. Whatever; I've got until September to get this project up and running (and I'm tied up with GRIDPP for the rest of the week anyhow).
-- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
-- Sent from the pit of despair ----------------------------------------------------------- daniela.bauer@imperial.ac.uk HEP Group/Physics Dep Imperial College London, SW7 2BW Tel: +44-(0)20-75947810 http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/~dbauer/
Hi Daniela; On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Daniela Bauer wrote:
Hi Ivan,
are those files registered in the dirac file catalogue ? (I assume they aren't.) If they are registered (and if you plan to use dirac in the long run, that's probably they way forward), then replicating them to another SE is fairly (emphasis on fairly) straightforward.
No they aren't as far as I know. I just have my test file DiracFile('LFN:/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/user/i/ivan.reid/TEST.md') at present. I certainly intend to use the file catalogue if at all possible, but of course I don't have any feel yet for how easily replication, etc. is for datasets of that magnitude. We certainly need to keep a tight rein on naming conventions and so on, so I'm keen to use the catalogue.
Regards, Daniela
Cheers, ivan
On 11 April 2017 at 14:22, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Daniela; On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Daniela Bauer wrote:
Hi Ivan,
you could try and specify Imperial as the destination site, that might
work.
Regards,
Daniela
As I mentioned to you in Brighton I was trying to force the job to run at Brunel because that's where our data will be. I've already used ganga to run test jobs using both LCG and Dirac backends (as well as Condor and Local) -- they ran at QMUL and RHUL.
I'm loth to push the data to other sites as I'm told the datasets can get quite big -- you can see what was used earlier at root://dc2-grid-64.brunel.ac.uk/vo.londongrid.ac.uk/arshad.kahn
At the moment I'm waiting for Raul's return, while trying to determine the best way of getting the data onto our SE -- the traditional way was a file containing 3,600 wget commands! So, I'm looking into job splitting, etc.
Thanks, ivan
On 4 April 2017 at 21:51, Dr Ivan D. Reid <ivan.reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Simon Fayer wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your job, the JDL looks OK and
the DIRAC server is trying to generate pilots.
It appears that Brunel has 3 CEs registered in DIRAC, but it is failing to
submit pilots to all three of them due to a problem with mapping the LondonGrid pilot role to an account:
$ uberftp dc2-grid-21.brunel.ac.uk
220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-22.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ uberftp dc2-grid-26.brunel.ac.uk 220 Server ready 535 Not allowed $ voms-proxy-info -all subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CN=proxy issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk identity : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk type : proxy strength : 1024 bits path : /tmp/x509up_u46716 timeleft : 11:59:48 key usage : Digital Signature, Key Encipherment, Data Encipherment === VO vo.londongrid.ac.uk extension information === VO : vo.londongrid.ac.uk subject : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Imperial/L=Physics/CN= dirac-pilot.grid.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk issuer : /C=UK/O=eScience/OU=Manchester/L=HEP/CN=voms.gridpp.ac.uk attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=pilot/Capability=NULL attribute : /vo.londongrid.ac.uk/Role=NULL/Capability=NULL timeleft : 11:59:48 uri : voms.gridpp.ac.uk:15021
(I also tried with the standard user/NULL role and that seems to work, so
it seems to be specially a problem with the pilot role).
Regards,
Simon
OK, thanks Simon. I'll explicitly add Raul in Cc: in case he's
not on the list, but he's in Brazil for the next two weeks so I don't expect a speedy resolution. Whatever; I've got until September to get this project up and running (and I'm tied up with GRIDPP for the rest of the week anyhow).
-- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12
-- Ivan Reid (ivan.reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]) Engineering, Design & Physical Sciences CMS Collaboration, Brunel University London. Room TOWD405 CERN, Room 40-1-B12 GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
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