Hello David Thanks for making these changes! Francis Sent from my Galaxy Tab® S2 -------- Original message --------From: David Ham <David.Ham@imperial.ac.uk> Date: 2017-02-16 04:14 (GMT-05:00) To: firedrake <firedrake@imperial.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [firedrake] Firedrake and xcode Hi Francis, I have now tested this out on a clean Mac and I confirm that you are 100% correct: we don't need xcode, just the command line tools. I have just merged a change into Firedrake master to this effect so future users will be spared the need to download xcode. Thank you! Regards, David On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 at 09:35 David Ham <David.Ham@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: Hi Francis,  Thanks for this. This is really helpful. Happily I have just asked our operations manager to procure a new mac for build testing so we'll try to build with minimal xcode there, and assuming it works we'll push a change to the firedrake-install script. Regards, David On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 at 02:44 Francis Poulin <fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca> wrote: Hello David, I asked someone who has never used firedrake before and after he commented out the lines to say you need the full xcode, the installation seemed to work fine.  We haven't done much with this and I seem to recall that some of the tests will fail but if you wanted us to try something in particular please let me know. Cheers Francis ------------------ Francis Poulin                     Associate Professor Department of Applied Mathematics University of Waterloo email:           fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca Web:            https://uwaterloo.ca/poulin-research-group/ Telephone:  +1 519 888 4567 x32637 From: firedrake-bounces@imperial.ac.uk [firedrake-bounces@imperial.ac.uk] on behalf of David Ham [David.Ham@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 6:26 AM To: firedrake Subject: Re: [firedrake] Firedrake and xcode Hi Francis, If you are able to give this a try this would be great. We don't currently have a clean Mac lying around to try this on. Regards, David On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 at 16:06 Francis Poulin <fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca> wrote: Hello David, Thanks for looking into this detail.  Is this something that you might want me to try and see if the installation works? Cheers, Francis ------------------ Francis Poulin                     Associate Professor Department of Applied Mathematics University of Waterloo email:           fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca Web:            https://uwaterloo.ca/poulin-research-group/ Telephone:  +1 519 888 4567 x32637 From: firedrake-bounces@imperial.ac.uk [firedrake-bounces@imperial.ac.uk] on behalf of David Ham [David.Ham@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 5:28 AM To: firedrake Subject: Re: [firedrake] Firedrake and xcode Hi Francis, We're basically installing xcode in order to have the compilers. I wasn't aware until this week that you could get the compilers by just installing the much smaller xcode command line tools. It's entirely possible that this is sufficient, but we (or someone) would need to test this. I think one just needs to comment out lines 955 to 958 of firedrake-install and then try running it on a clean Mac. Regards, David On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 at 16:42 Francis Poulin <fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca> wrote: Hello, I have had several students install Firedrake on a MacMini and each time the full version of Xcode needed to be installed.  Is this necessarily the case?  If yes, what in particular is needed? Francis ------------------ Francis Poulin                     Associate Professor Department of Applied Mathematics University of Waterloo email:           fpoulin@uwaterloo.ca Web:            https://uwaterloo.ca/poulin-research-group/ Telephone:  +1 519 888 4567 x32637 -- Dr David Ham Department of Mathematics Imperial College London -- Dr David Ham Department of Mathematics Imperial College London -- Dr David HamDepartment of MathematicsImperial College London-- Dr David HamDepartment of MathematicsImperial College London