L.A.Crawshaw@herts.ac.UK wrote:
However my main concern is that it is a Windows 95 version. We do not have Windows 95 yet, nor are likely to in the near future - we are more likely to move toward Windows NT. So even if I add it to stock, there is no machine here which can make use of it!!
Am I correct in reading that this disc is "Win95 only"? If so (the issue hasn't surfaced here yet), I can think of very few computers and scientists here able to make much use of it. Should I presume that this is a "trial balloon" and that the disc will be made cross-platform in the future? I feel bad speaking ill of something that I haven't yet seen and whose concept I support wholeheartedly, but frankly the tools are available to make hybrid discs and the target audience certainly has a large amount of MacOS users. A related tangent: there seems to be significant momentum for Java being a "write it only once" cross-platform solution. Are there electronic publishing systems written in Java in development (or existing)? Like many people, I have been underwhelmed by Java's performance over the web (largely due to the bandwidth problem), but I'm interested in how well it works on a local computer or intranet level.... Hoping I can browse ECHET96 in the future (and certainly ECTOC97!), john nash -==-John R. Nash-==-nash@chem.wisc.edu-==-UW-Madison Chem. Dept-==- --- "When in doubt, roll!" --- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver@ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa@ic.ac.uk)
L.A.Crawshaw@herts.ac.UK wrote:
However my main concern is that it is a Windows 95 version. We do not have Windows 95 yet, nor are likely to in the near future - we are more likely to move toward Windows NT. So even if I add it to stock, there is no machine here which can make use of it!!
Am I correct in reading that this disc is "Win95 only"? If so (the issue hasn't surfaced here yet)
Actually, the disk is a Win-95-NT/Macintosh hybrid, that also works on the two SGI systems we have tried it on. As far as I know, the Java code on the CD runs on all OSs that support Java (even Win 3.1 does nowadays) When we cut the first such CD (ECTOC-1), perhaps half of the total effort was to prepare the Win 3.1 version, since around 12,000 files and rather more hyperlinks all had to be converted to the 8.3 filename convention. Most of the received articles had not followed that convention! Given that our statistics now show that less than 15% of all visits to the conference and our site is by Win 3.1 users, and given our limited resources (basically myself and Chris Leach), we could not justify the effort in producing a Win 3.1 version (by the way, Mac use on our site is around 30%). HOWEVER! One component of ECHET96, namely the CLIC enhanced articles, WAS in 8.3 format, so we included it in a separate partition, and it should be readable on Win 3.1 machines. Finally, I might add that as a Mac user myself, I took great care to ensure it was Mac compatible. However, I rather think that had the entire project been run from a Win site, they would probably not have gone to the trouble. For example, does anyone know of CD-ROM mastering software that runs on Win, and produced Mac HFS partitions? I don't. A Mac/Win CD can only be produced from a Mac as far as I know. Henry Rzepa. +44 171 594 5774 (Office) +44 594 5804 (Fax) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver@ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa@ic.ac.uk)
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Rzepa, Henry wrote:
L.A.Crawshaw@herts.ac.UK wrote:
However my main concern is that it is a Windows 95 version. We do not have Windows 95 yet, nor are likely to in the near future - we are more likely to move toward Windows NT. So even if I add it to stock, there is no machine here which can make use of it!!
Am I correct in reading that this disc is "Win95 only"? If so (the issue hasn't surfaced here yet)
Actually, the disk is a Win-95-NT/Macintosh hybrid, that also works on the two SGI systems we have tried it on. As far as I know, the Java code on the CD runs on all OSs that support Java (even Win 3.1 does nowadays)
I would be particularly grateful for feedback on the CML component of the CDROM. (For those who didn't get it, there is a full copy of the JUMBO browser as at about 6 weeks ago and a large variety of CML examples (as well). My personal experience is that Java represents a breakthrough in portability of code - I have taken this CRDOM to several places and it has run under Netscape as "installation-free" - i.e. no need to install Java, connections to the WWW, etc. However at one site there was a permission problem under W95 and NT (I have no idea why). I have only had one comment of problems with the CML component, but would be grateful for other feedback (please don't just say that Java is slow... it's continuing to increase in speed). Problems could be: access to the files (e.g. an 8.3-like problem or protection, of some Java failure. If there is a Java failure, the Java console (under Options) will give the formal reason which is necessary (but not always sufficient) for a diagnosis. Since Java represents a potential breakthrough in distributing code for chemistry and this is the first experience of trying this type of distribution (i.e. not linked to applets from the WWW) feedback could be of general interest. BTW a new version of JUMBO has been prepared for a virtual demonstration (i.e. I am not physically present) at WWW6 on Friday and I hope to make that available shortly afterwards. There also plans for it to be encapsulated on CRDOM so any feedback would be useful. P. Peter Murray-Rust (PeterMR, ) Director, Virtual School of Molecular Sciences Pharmaceutical Sciences, Nottingham University, NG7 2RD, UK; Tel 44-115-9515100 Fax 5110 http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/vsms/; OMF: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/omf/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver@ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa@ic.ac.uk)
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John R. Nash
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peter murray rust
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Rzepa, Henry