Hi,

Very impressed with the scope TML allows. Its structured format would allow easy generation of source, all be it with a fair amount of typing.

Our ETS Dept are working on that too. Hopefully there should be a version of their CalScribe software (based on MS Toolbook), which can prompt the Question-setter with questions such as: 'Please type text of question', 'Please type correct answer', Please type 1st incorrect answer', etc. That way the question-setter needn't have to know much about the mechanics of TML at all, the program formats the whole tutorial for him. CalScribe does this already to a certain extent, but soon it'll be able to export the finished tutorial as a TML file. Watch this space...

But would its primary role be to assess or to instruct. ie. should wrong answers yield an informative response. If the instructional element is missing then its appeal to users would be low and probably only for required testing. If an instructional role is expected then I think users will be put of by the thought of logged scoring.

Both, but not at the same time, for the reasons mentioned above. It can be used as a teaching aid, with *very* detailed questions and answers, including large images, multiple pages of text, and hopefully rotatable molecules, etc, but this requires a lot of initial input from the question- setter who has to write it all! Alternatively it can be used as a quick and easy assessment method, where the scores are password protected for each student, and logged.

Password access would also greatly reduce the number of users and really might well restrict it to the realms of LAN based CAL packages.

Each student gives himself his own password, so we know it's him each time he uses the system for different tutorials.

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I've just written an example tutorial in TML using Chemistry-based questions and it's now on-line on our ETS server at:

http://www.ets.bris.ac.uk/ets/resource/tutorial/tutorial.htm

A nice demonstration. Even though the original demo illustrated the styles available having, the material in context shows the potential more.

Glad you liked it. It took me about 7 hours in total.

I didnt realise toluene would nitrate in the meta position.

Neither did I till I looked it up! (I'm a Physical Chemist). But apparently it nitrates at all 3 positions in the ratio of about ortho=35% meta=5% para=60% (or something like that...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul May, School of Chemistry, University of Bristol, UK tel: +44 (0)117 9287667, fax: +44 (0)117 9251295 email: paul.may@bris.ac.uk WWW: http://www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/Chemistry/staff/pwm.htm "Another squashed hedgehog in the gutter of the information superhighway" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver@ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa@ic.ac.uk)