Henry, I think the publishers should start treating e-Journals as databases. Something I request since some time http://listserv.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0203&L=chminf-l&P=R8012&I=-3 http://listserv.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0203&L=chminf-l&P=R14812&I=-3 No subscription to a journal but to a publisher. Give abstracts for free - like sciencedirect - and bill the volume of downloads. Woudn't that solve all problems ? You could do the automated download and the more you download, the happier the publisher gets. Of course, that would need an entirely new kind of cost calculation for the user. Michael Engel chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To post to list: mailto:chemweb@ic.ac.uk Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@ic.ac.uk the following message; (un)subscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@ic.ac.uk)