Firstly, welcome to a whole new raft of subscribers from the USA, courtesy of a cross posting! I see we are described as a high content forum! So a trifle nervously, I offer the following information. A small delegation of us associated with the CLIC/ELIB project (more of which on http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/clic amongst others) visited Graz, the home of a project named Hyper-G (the G for Graz) and shortly to become HyperWave as a commercial variant. I have not truly realised that whilst Tim Berners Lee at CERN was inventing the Web in 1989, and Mark McCahill was creating Gopher around 1991, the Hyper-G people were creating in 1989 a system that as a "matter of design" was in fact a superset of both WWW and Gopher. Hermann Maurer, the origator of the Hyper-G project, deserves at least as much credit as these other two, and yet receives too little acknowlegement from the community (and no, they did not bribe me with lots of splendid Austrian beer for me to say this!) There is too much to describe here, except that many of the structural problems of current Web servers are addressed in many elegant ways. Where the tide of time has not always played in Hyper-G's favour is that some of the extra features do need a special browser (normally Netscape suffices), called Amadeus on windows and Harmony on Unix (why the difference?). A Mac client is "on the way". Anyway, this is merely to whet your appetite. A formal and simple "what is Hyper-G", without the technical jargon will be ready from the Hyper-G people very shortly. We are working up a Hyper-G server with a database interface here, and will try to mount the ECHET96 conference (currently on http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/ectoc/echet96) also on Hyper-G. With any luck, the CD from ECHET96 will be in Hyper-G form, which will make for virtually instant creating of the entire CD from the server database (unlike the months of manual editing the ECTOC CD took. Plug: its now on sale from the RSC: http://chemistry.rsc.org/rsc/ectoc1.htm) I will post again with some explicit examples as and when they become ready. Suffice to say that all the recent developments (Java and Java-script, VRML, plug-ins, local client maps, index searches and more) fit easily and well into Hyper-G. Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY; rzepa@ic.ac.uk; Tel (44) 171 594 5774; Fax: (44) 171 594 5804. URL: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. Archived as: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To unsubscribe, send to listserver@ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa@ic.ac.uk)