Identité Message:<4.0.1.19981027151451.00e9d8c0@fluo.univ-lemans.fr> X-Sender: armel@fluo.univ-lemans.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:39:28 +0100 To: chminf-l@listserv.indiana.edu,chemweb@ic.ac.uk From: Armel Le Bail <armel@fluo.univ-lemans.fr> Subject: Updating the ISI's most cited authors lists Cc: alb@cristal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, Now almost one year that the ISI's most cited chemists (10858 cited at least 500 times) and physicists (1120 first) lists are freely available at http://www.cristal.org/cit.html (US) or at http://fluo.univ-lemans.fr:8001/cit.html (France). The search engines were asked for ~13000 names/month and various partial or full lists were downloaded ~2000/month since December 1997, as a mean. Peoples may be interested by the knowledge of their own rank or by the rank of colleagues. Institutions may use those lists for evaluation. Students may decide to make a post-doc according to informations from those lists. Etc. For inverse reasons, there could be individuals or groups working against those lists publication. However, the lists gather citations in the range 1981-June 1997. They are now outdated. May I remember the story of the lists availability. Following the publication of the 50 most cited chemists by D. Pendleburry from ISI, it was clear that a full list of 10858 names had been built. After discussions, I bought this full chemists list US$ 1000, sharing the cost with a group of 36 colleagues. Then, ISI sent me also the 10 first pages of the physicists list, for free. The Web access was then tolerated. There is unfortunately no evidence that ISI will distribute updated lists (in spite of asking me for my search engine PERL script and of being interested in the number of Web access, month after month). Maybe it is to the Scientific Community to insist for obtaining them. They are at the ISI disposal, at the easy click of a button. I did not obtained any answer to my recent queries about updating. Some of you could have more influence... Armel Le bail PS - A huge correspondence was initiated by these lists availability. Some typical comments are below :
It is a pity that ISI is a for-profit organisation! You did a fine service=
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to the community by making the list available. There should be a way that scientists have access to this information WITHOUT=20 paying money for it!
I really appreciate what you did. This has been a wonderful service to=
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community. I wonder if you have analyzed the data in anyway. More specifically is=20 there even a rough relationship between total citations and rank? For=20 example is a log-log plot of rank vs total citations linear? If so=20 what is the slope? This would allow one to see eg if there is any real=20 difference between being ranked 200 vs 400 or 1000 vs 3000 etc etc. Just a thought.
Do you have available on line on the web a ranked=20 list of the 10,000 or so most cited physicists?=20 (like your list for chemists). For instance, all physicists with more than 500 citations.=20 Many researchers and faculty members would be very, very=20 interested in that list. Please let me know how to access it.
Do you plan tu update the list?
Great!!! Thanks a lot!! Your stuff is extremely interesting and=20 we welcome your activities really gratefully.=20 Would you mind to comment about my querries? a) Is the list of citations free of selfcitations? b) Do you involve journals dealing with electrochemistry? I miss some people on your list who are active in this field=20 and who enjoy rather frequent quoting.
Etc All the 1998 Nobel in Chemistry and Physics, but Kohn, were inside these lists. Kohn being probably ranked >1120 in the physicists list (with a chemistry Nobel, and this suggests some discrepancies between ISI and the Nobels about what are exactly chemistry and physics :-) Author(s) Name Average citation Total articles Total citations Rank by total citations TSUI DC 36.08 184 6638 71 STORMER HL 54.50 98 5341 133 LAUGHLIN RB 81.00 46 3726 374 POPLE JA 79.80 176 14044 2 Armel Le Bail - Universit=E9 du Maine, Laboratoire des Fluorures, CNRS ESA 6010, Av. O. Messiaen, 72085 Le Mans Cedex 9, France http://www.cristal.org/ chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To post to list: mailto:chemweb@ic.ac.uk Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/chemweb/ To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@ic.ac.uk the following message; (un)subscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@ic.ac.uk)