On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Steven Abbott wrote:
Call me thick, but however much I poured over the CML tutorial, FAQ
No! (you can call *me* incompetent!)
etc. and however much I tried to get my brain around it, I couldn't see how to actually set up my (Java enabled) Internet Explorer to see CML in full blood.
The first phase of the release was to show the language and not to confuse it with a particular method viewing it. I should have made it clearer. The language can do lots of things besides being viewed, e.g. interfacing with databases, acting as a transport medium, structured searches, input for programs, etc. However, since languages developed with no technology often don't work well, it was very important to develop a technology with which the language can be tested. I hope and expect that people will develop other systems. None of the pages within the CML tree is activated at present to display Java. I intend to add additional examples in a week or so when I am sure they are working. If you want a preview, there are two molecular hyperglossaries under: http://www.venus.co.uk/vhg/glossaries/ e.g. http://www.venus.co.uk/vhg/glossaries/pps/java.html and look at an amino acid (e.g. tryptophan). But - be warned, it takes about 30 sec+ to download and gives rather horrid dispplays on some system (e.g. W95). Also sometimes incorrect classes get cached and this gives rise to errors. Debugging java problem on someone else'e client is not possible - sorry. So - given that I have already goofed :-) - although it was a subtle problem - I want to be careful about releasing the applets before they have been tested.
This is probably because it is obvious to those more expert than me how you take all the Java class stuff from Peter MR's web site and get things going.
But, like so many people, my only encounter with Java is those useless applets that welcome you to web sites and tell you the time of day in San Francisco. As I've never been anywhere that had a real Java application, I'd always assumed that Java happened by magic: if they want you to be able to run a program, it will (firewall's permitting) jump into your browser. So I expected something similar to happen with CML.
It will (and it does!) I have run it on W95, SGI, Sun and they have all worked (the SGI has a grotty default font, W95 sometimes refreshes 10 times when the mouse moves in the scrollbar. BUT the new release of JDK (1.1) fixes many of these problems. BUT JDK 1.1 doesn't work with certain browsers (e.g. Netscape 3). These problems will rapidly go away. Java is only one way of using CML - there are many others.
I've gone on at length because I expect I'm not the only dummy in this list who will have some problems going from the CML web site to a contented useage of what looks like a wondeful system.
Thanks! I am very confident that that Java+SGML is going to have an important part in the WWW and that the technology will mature very rapidly. How many of you remember the *first* PC version of Mossaic? P.
Help!
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