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Web Management Software
by awilson＠chemwww.bham.ac.uk 11 Dec '95

11 Dec '95

Hello all! At Birmingham, we took the decision about 15 months ago to set up our own server solution, Apple-based (MacHTTP). We now have a dedicated 6150 Server (lots of hard disk, memory, RAID etc.) and use the famous WebStar (commercial version). This was essentially Apple's Internet in a box solution and works pretty well out of the box. As far as management software goes, we use NetForms and NetCloak as well as cgis and some Apple script stuff. There are two shareware utilities (cron and WebStat) for statistics. Although this is an easy solution to maintain, there are drawbacks (Apple script is slooooooow) and we may move to a Silicon Graphics platform in the future (depends on the cash situation). We can also run a dedicated email service and general archiving facility on this machine. Anyone thinking of setting up a departmental server can do alot worse than this route in my opinion. Alan ps I am a full-time staff and part-time webmaster! Different thread, but perhaps relevant. pps Apologies to anyone visiting bham - we are currently undergoing a major re-vamp. Should be on-line in our new form after the Xmas break...... (famous last words) ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: Getting the powers that be interested in the web
by Paul.Archer＠nottingham.ac.uk 11 Dec '95

11 Dec '95

>> >> Dave Currie >> >> p.s. I am a postdoc, and it interesting to see what the positions are of the >> people who are administering depts' web pages ! > > I am also a post-doc as I suspect <em>most</em> webmasters are. > The WWW is young persons `thing' essentially and we need to work > at it to demonstrate the tremendous possibilities it offers. I am a Technician (responsible for the graphic requirements of the department). Like others I set up the site to satisfy my own interests (hence the reason it is situated in my user area). Unfortunatly I still think it is still only for my interests in the Web (The department shows little interest I am always pushing for fresh information). One of the reasons I suggested computer conferences instead of live conferences is because my department made me take the day off to attend the meeting and cover my own traveling expences. I would be intersested in the circumstances other Web masters work. Is it mainly done in our own time or do some people get time allocated when they can officially work on their pages? Thanks for setting up a computer conference. I may not be able to attend all meetings, but i will monitor all mailings. ============================================================================ Paul Archer Dip.Comp A17, Department of Chemistry University of Nottingham, fax: +44 115 951 3562 University Park, tel: +44 115 951 3453 Nottingham. NG7 2RD.UK. e-mail:Paul.Archer@nottingham.ac.uk or :100421.426@compuserve.com ============================================================================ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Getting the powers that be intersted
by Paul May 11 Dec '95

11 Dec '95

Hi, > I would be intersested in the > circumstances other Web masters work. Is it mainly done in our own time or > do some people get time allocated when they can officially work on their > pages? I'm also a postdoc (a Royal Society Reseacrh Fellow) and I do most of the Bristol Web pages in my spare time. However, being the Webmaster is recognised as an official School of Chemistry admin 'duty', with similar status to being on a teaching-type committee. But no actual resources are given for the main web page (that's left to our computer centre to organise...). They did cover the costs of attending the London meeting, though, (but since it only cost 8.75 on the coach so it was a bargain, really :-) ). But I, too, have to scrounge around to find useful things to put on the web. We now advertise any job (postgrad, postdoc, etc) vacancies on the web page, and I've had a hard job persuading non-web colleagues to use even this *free* service... I recently put up our safety handbook, and all the Risk Assessment forms and COSHH forms that researchers have to fill in before they do any risky expts. That way they can download the appropriate forms when they need them, print them out, sign them and then send them to our safety officer with the minimum of hassle. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul May, School of Chemistry, University of Bristol, UK tel: +44 (0)117 9287667, fax: +44 (0)117 9251295 email: paul.may(a)bris.ac.uk WWW: http://www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/Chemistry/staff/pwm.htm "Another squashed hedgehog in the gutter of the information superhighway" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: Getting the powers that be interested in the web
by Stephen Le Hunte 11 Dec '95

11 Dec '95

> One of the > reasons I suggested computer conferences instead of live conferences is > because my department made me take the day off to attend the meeting and > cover my own traveling expences. I would be intersested in the > circumstances other Web masters work. Is it mainly done in our own time or > do some people get time allocated when they can officially work on their > pages? > That's pretty bad. I myself am a postgrad PhD student, who at the time it was required was the only person who knew HTML. I had offered previously to do a Web site for the department, but it was after some of the lecturers had been shown a demonstration that they asked me to do it. Seeing as how I did it for free (I've heard of postgrad's getting paid up to 750 to do department's web site), they paid my expenses for the trip to London for the conference. Cheers Stephen ------------------------------------------ Stephen Le Hunte (cmlehunt(a)swan.ac.uk) Author of the HTML Reference Library ftp://ftp.swan.ac.uk/pub/in.coming/htmlib/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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The ChemExper Chemicals Directory
by h.rzepa＠ic.ac.uk 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

I have tried this database, and it appears very useful! >From: denonne(a)chor.ucl.ac.be (Frederic Denonne) >Subject: The ChemExper Chemicals Directory > >With this article, we would like to introduce you with a concept regarding >chemical information: a free searchable chemicals catalog on the Web. >How does it work ? >Using a Web browser, like Netscape (R), you connect to our server at the >following URL: > > http://www.chemexper.be > >Right there, you are prompted to search for a defined chemical. >There are currently three ways to search for a chemical: by formula, by >name or by CAS registry number. (A sub-structure search engin will be >included next year) > >Click on the submit button and within 5 minutes (most searches take less >than 1 minute) you obtain the result of your search as a list of hypertext >links of products matching your query. > >Clik on a link and info on that product appears. This info usually contain >physical data as well as safety information, 2D structure and for some >products, NMR spectrum. >And this is entirely free! >Moreover, if you find that we don't have info for a defined chemical (only >10,000 compounds currently), you can send it to us and we will include it >in our database mentionning your name (as a hyperlink for example). Any >kind of info can be included (3D structures, Ms/IR/NMR spectra, ...) >Please contact us to define a common format. > >If you are a company, you can put your catalog in this database and we will >provide a link to your page so as to allow direct on line ordering for >clients. In this case only, you'll have to pay a fee for this kind of >advertising. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Frederic Denonne http://c267b.chor.ucl.ac.be >Universite Catholique de Louvain (UCL) Belgium http://www.ucl.ac.be >Organic Synthesis Division (ORSY) http://www.chor.ucl.ac.be >Voice: + 32 10 47 87 54 Fax: + 32 10 47 41 68 >-------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Henry Rzepa, Department of Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY; rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk via Eudora Pro 2.1.3; Tel (44) 171 594 5774; Fax: (44) 171 594 5804. World-Wide Web URL: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Global Chemweb?
by Paul May 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

Hi, > Echoing the suggestion here we > floated the idea of a 'molecule of the week' but it didn't get off the > ground. Superb idea! Why don't we all volunteer to find out information about one particular molecule each and put it up as a web page. A central coordinator (Henry?) can then nominate a 'molecule of the week' from the submitted pages. All the UK web sites could then put a pointer to that particular page for that week on their home pages. It might be a way of increasing interest in the Web, and build up a database of molecular information at the same time. To get undergrads interested, I'd suggest the pages weren't too 'heavy', keep them simple, informative and interesting... Anyone agree? Anyone keen to make a molecule of the week page? > The central thing is that there should be an easy way of mounting > cgi-scripts and editing them. (Remember that almost all forms require a > cgi-script to process them.) A library of cgi tools would be extremely > valuable. If anyone has a database engine that can process the results > that is extremely valuable (we looked at /rdb - the author gave us some > help - but we didn't have enough resource). > IF we can get a collection of resources I am sure that otehrs will add to > it rather than duplicating it. Yes, yes, yes! I've been pestering our computer centre for 6 months to provide me with useful cgi programs to do things like make password protected areas, hot images, search engines, page access counters, stats packages, etc, but they still haven't done it. A centralised resource like this, eg on an ftp site, would be invaluable! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul May, School of Chemistry, University of Bristol, UK tel: +44 (0)117 9287667, fax: +44 (0)117 9251295 email: paul.may(a)bris.ac.uk WWW: http://www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/Chemistry/staff/pwm.htm "Another squashed hedgehog in the gutter of the information superhighway" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: Global Chemweb?
by h.rzepa＠ic.ac.uk 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

>We might want to contact CTICC (Computers in teaching initiative centre >for Chemistry) at Liverpool, and their equivalents in say, Physics, & >Medicine to see if they're interested. Maybe the CTI could orgainise >a web conference, and we produce a Chemistry parallel symposium? CTI were a trifle slow in recognising the potential of the Web (if fact, did not the Webmasters meet clash with one of theirs?). Anyway, I would not wish it to be totally dominated by teaching. Although I personally take teaching seriously, it is still regarded by many as a poor cousin to research themes and funding. If we push teaching too strongly, it may be mis-interpreted. Are we convinced that a one day conference, say starting at 10 and going till 5, and with posters, is excluded? This would ease accomodation problems and hence cost. Dr Henry Rzepa, Department of Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY; rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk via Eudora Pro 2.1.3; Tel (44) 171 594 5774; Fax: (44) 171 594 5804. World-Wide Web URL: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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re:web software management
by 14CONOLEG＠CLUSTER.NORTH-LONDON.AC.UK 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

Hi I have only being connected to the internet since the summer. It would be interesting to know what % of chemistry academics are connected so far. The university has a sun unix box as a web server. I put some of my stuff in an allocated space on the unix in particular feedback questionnaires (which uses a program developed by Phil Richards from Hull Univeristy). More general hypertext documents and a series of interactive tutorials written using Authorware are kept in my Vax area. I am hoping in the near future to set up a departmental server, presumably unix based. Grainne ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Web Management Software
by h.rzepa＠ic.ac.uk 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

There has been a recent spate of annoucements for management software of Web Sites. The best known is SiteMill from Adobe (http://www.ceneca.com/Products/SiteMill.html) which is not yet quite shipping, and is likely to be expensive. Then, along comes Clay Basket which looks equally powerful, appears to be entirely free (http://www.hotwired.com/userland/yabbadabba/) and comes with Frontier, a powerful scripting environment. and from CE Software, WebArranger (http://www.cesoft.com/) of which the first 5000 copies appear to be free. I have not yet tried any of these, but I do notice that ALL THREE are Macintosh products only! As you might guess, I am less familiar with Windows-95 and Windows-NT solutions. Does anyone know if they exist for these platforms? A few months ago, I would have said that Unix based Web server solutions were probably the best. However, with this flow of software coming along for the Mac (and Windows?) I am less certain now. Might I ask the list to respond with say a) the platform they have chosen to serve from b) whether site management software is yet in regular use? Our own server is SGI, on which we run NCSA HTTP 1.4 as the production server, with Netsite and Hyper-G as experimental servers (may also try out Apache). Site management is currently Hyper-G as an experiment and also Harvest. PS If you wish to respond, don't change the subject line, so we can maintain the thread! Dr Henry Rzepa, Department of Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY; rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk via Eudora Pro 2.1.3; Tel (44) 171 594 5774; Fax: (44) 171 594 5804. World-Wide Web URL: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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Re: Web Management Software
by bruno＠chemcrys.cam.ac.uk 08 Dec '95

08 Dec '95

> > Might I ask the list to respond with say > > a) the platform they have chosen to serve from > b) whether site management software is yet in regular use? > Ours is running on a VAX. The machine is practically dedicated to the WWW server which is CERN HTTP 3.0. No site-management software. Ian Bruno CCDC ----- chemweb: A list for Chemical Applications of the Internet. To unsubscribe, send to listserver(a)ic.ac.uk the following message; unsubscribe chemweb List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (rzepa(a)ic.ac.uk)

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