At the risk of causing some people a further rash of duplicate message,
I want to alert people that two members of the chemweb list have reported to
me that they got multiple (30 or so) copies of Mark Winter's message
about Browser statistics.
The culprit or suspect at the moment appears to be a badly damaged trans
Atlantic link which in the parlance is "bouncing" up and down. This
could cause email messages to get confused about whether they have been
truly delivered or not, and might explain why other recipients appear not
to have received multiple messages.
When the Atlantic link has been fixed, my gurus here tell me they
will be able to take a closer look at the problem. Meanwhile, please bear
with us whilst we track the problem down.
Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY;
mailto:rzepa@ic.ac.uk; Tel (44) 171 594 5774; Fax: (44) 171 594 5804.
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> Dear colleagues
>
> You may or may not find this helpful when considering designing your
> chemistry site. The following are results from 100000 accesses on 1 page of
> WebElements over the last 20 days or so. They were achieved using the free
> www.hitbox.com service. No doubt there all sorts of systematic errors so
> don't take the numbers too literally.
> ...
> Chime 2%
> [plenty of others, mostly 0-3%]
I also now tried this service. To use it, you have to install about 100 lines
of JavaScript into the page you wish monitored.
In my hands at least (MacOS 8.5.1, Netscape 4.08) this caused my
browser to lock up, requiring a reboot of the computer. If the
problem occurs with others, then that would be a concern. If
anyone sees crashes on http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/ please let me
know and I will rapidly remove the code
The "chime" statistics are also interesting, since I would have been pretty
convinced that the rate amongst chemists was higher than 2% (I wonder
if it detects both versions 1 and 2?).
Finally, I wonder how one should handle the recording of such statistics.
Normally, they go into your server logs. But in this case, they are all
sent back (in real time) to hitbox.com, ie a 3rd party. Is it ethical
to set up such a feature without giving users the right to "opt out"
of the statistics gathering?
Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY;
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I've gotten this exact same message 8 times now. With the same date and
time. What the h*** is going on?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Winter [SMTP:M.Winter@Sheffield.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 7:46 AM
> To: chemweb(a)ic.ac.uk
> Subject: Browser stats on a chemistry site
>
> Dear colleagues
>
> You may or may not find this helpful when considering designing your
> chemistry site. The following are results from 100000 accesses on 1 page
> of
> WebElements over the last 20 days or so. They were achieved using the free
> www.hitbox.com service. No doubt there all sorts of systematic errors so
> don't take the numbers too literally.
>
> Browsers
> Netscape 52%
> Internet Explorer 47%
> Others 1% (mainly WebTV)
>
> Versions
> 5.x 1%
> 4.x 70%
> 3.x 27%
>
> JavaScript enabled: 96%
>
> Java enabled:
> Yes 80%
> No 6%
> Unknown 15%
>
> OS
> Windows 83% (95 53%; 98 18%; NT 9%; 3.x 4%)
> MacOS 14%
> Unix 1%
> WebTV 1%
> Other 1 %
>
> Screens
> 800 x 600 45%
> 640 x 480 29%
> bigger 25%
>
> Plug-ins (as % of accesses)
> QuickTime 39%
> LiveAudio 38%
> ShockWave graphics player 38%
> NPAVI32DynamicLinkLibrary 27% (what is this?)
> ShockwaveFlash 23%
> Real (various) 15%
> AdobeAcrobat 12%
> CosmoPlayer 10%
> Live3D 5%
> PDF viewer 3%
> Chime 2%
> [plenty of others, mostly 0-3%]
>
> I'm curious about what the plug-in figures, in particular, really mean,
> bearing in mind this is a chemistry specific page that is being monitored.
> They do seem to suggest that if you have a controlled audience (that is, a
> group of your students, say), then assuming specific plug-in availabilty
> might be OK - but if your audience is general, then assume very little !
>
>
> Dr Mark J Winter (Director of Studies)
> Department of Chemistry, The University, Sheffield S3 7HF, England
> tel: +44 (0)114 222 9304
> fax: +44 (0)114 222 9303
> e-m: mark.winter(a)sheffield.ac.uk
> http://www.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/staff/mjw/mark-winter.html
>
> WebElements is the periodic table on the world-wide web:
> http://www.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/web-elements/
>
> The Sheffield Chemdex is a listing of chemistry sites on the world-wide
> web:
> http://www.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/chemdex/
>
>
>
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Dear all,
I have just finished writing a molecule editor in JAVA. If anyone is
interested, it is available at :
http://www.chem.leeds.ac.uk/ICAMS/people/denis/moledit.html
You may freely download the Java source code and modify it.
Any comments are indeed welcome.
Thank you
Denis
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A colleague who is not on this list has asked me the following:
"We are looking for sources of information/articles which stress the
fact that the volume of information available (and which we must
process) in the pharmaceutical area is considerably greater compared to
other industrial sectors in the "chemical" industry e.g. Agrochemicals,
Dyestuffs, Plastics, Photographic, Organic Chemicals, Inorganic
Chemicals, Paints etc.... The relative number of scientific and
technical journals or articles(and their relative size) or patents in
the different areas would, for example be a quantitative argument but
there are probably also qualitative arguments too."
My colleague can do a patent count himself, I guess, and he has some
figures to show there are 5 times as many journals aimed at the
pharmaceutical industry as at the other industries. We can probably find
the number of journals in total and there was some stuff on the chminf-l
list (when?) about the growth in the literature in general.
Does anybody have any other ideas for us, please? All suggestions
gratefully received.
Wendy
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